Much emotion surrounds the issue of Barack Obama's citizenship and constitutional eligibility to serve as President of the United States. If you make a comment on many of the websites that discuss the issue, you are likely to be attacked by those who hold a different opinion.
Some Obama supporters think you're a nut if you express an opinion against Obama. If you think he is eligible to serve, some on the other side think you're a commie-socialist. Both sides often call those on the other side "traitors".
We're not happy with the fact that the anger and shouting have prevented a real discussion of the facts. At the moment, there's no place which contains comprehensive information about Obama's citizenship and his constitutional eligibility to serve as President of the United States.
We want Obama Citizenship Debate to be that resource. We welcome everyone who is interested in discussing this issue with the intent of getting to the thruth about Mr. Obama's citizenship and his constitutional eligibility.
This is not a place to discuss what you like or dislike about Mr. Obama, his politics, policies, successes, or failures. Those are ballot box issues for the voters and there are plenty of places to discuss them.
It makes no difference whether you like Mr. Obama, dislike him, or ar neutral, we should all want the full truth and the questions answered.
If you happen to think Mr. Obama is ineligible to serve, then you should want the truth to come out because justice will then be serverd and you will be proven to have been correct in your judgement. By the same token, if you think he is eligible to serve, then you should want the truth to come out so that the issue is no longer used to undercut his administration and so that your judgment will be vindicated.
Some Obama supporters think you're a nut if you express an opinion against Obama. If you think he is eligible to serve, some on the other side think you're a commie-socialist. Both sides often call those on the other side "traitors".
We're not happy with the fact that the anger and shouting have prevented a real discussion of the facts. At the moment, there's no place which contains comprehensive information about Obama's citizenship and his constitutional eligibility to serve as President of the United States.
We want Obama Citizenship Debate to be that resource. We welcome everyone who is interested in discussing this issue with the intent of getting to the thruth about Mr. Obama's citizenship and his constitutional eligibility.
This is not a place to discuss what you like or dislike about Mr. Obama, his politics, policies, successes, or failures. Those are ballot box issues for the voters and there are plenty of places to discuss them.
It makes no difference whether you like Mr. Obama, dislike him, or ar neutral, we should all want the full truth and the questions answered.
If you happen to think Mr. Obama is ineligible to serve, then you should want the truth to come out because justice will then be serverd and you will be proven to have been correct in your judgement. By the same token, if you think he is eligible to serve, then you should want the truth to come out so that the issue is no longer used to undercut his administration and so that your judgment will be vindicated.
As American citizens, it is our job to defend the U. S. Constittution. Getting to the truth of this issue is defending the constitution,
whether it turns out Mr. Obama is eligible or ineligible. So, ask yourself this
question:
Which is more important to you? Winning an argument that can't be won or uncovering the facts and revealing the truth?
To bring this issue to the forefront, have the media take it seriously, and uncover the truth, Obama Citizenship Debate can only help if we are an unbiased, comprehensive, and credible resource.
Please remember that we want the complete facts and the truth revealed. It will take much discipline to refrain from shouting matches, angry attacks, and discussion of Mr. Obama/s policies and politics. It you want the truth to be revealed more than you want your "side" to win, please join us.
The Obama Citizenship Debate Administration Team
Which is more important to you? Winning an argument that can't be won or uncovering the facts and revealing the truth?
To bring this issue to the forefront, have the media take it seriously, and uncover the truth, Obama Citizenship Debate can only help if we are an unbiased, comprehensive, and credible resource.
Please remember that we want the complete facts and the truth revealed. It will take much discipline to refrain from shouting matches, angry attacks, and discussion of Mr. Obama/s policies and politics. It you want the truth to be revealed more than you want your "side" to win, please join us.
The Obama Citizenship Debate Administration Team
Foreign policy at it's finest.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090321/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_us_what_s_next
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – The Iranian leader's rebuff on Saturday to President Barack Obama's offer for dialogue was swift and sweeping: Words from Washington ring hollow without deep policy changes.
But Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's response was more than just a dismissive slap at the outreach. It was a broad lesson in the mind-set of Iran's all-powerful theocracy and how it will dictate the pace and tone of any new steps by Obama to chip away at their nearly 30-year diplomatic freeze.
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So much for "change".
This is good.
If you can manage to provide a complete and unbiased resource on Obama's Citizenship, you will have the only authoritative website on the topic.
Personally, I believe an unbiased presentation of the facts will show that Obama is ineligible to serve, but I will be satisfied to simply know the truth, even if I am wrong and he is eligible.
I am looking forward to the great discussions ahead.
Website looks Grrrrr8, thanks!
THE LIES OF BARACK OBAMA
This thread is dedicated to the lies told by barry soetoro------- pls be kind enough to simply post what you believe is a lie of his and do not expound so we can see just how many lies the POSIC (piece of s in charge) - for I will never call him my CIC.
OK Lie #1 - The tornado that killed 12000 in Kansas this past year
( and please put your lie # next to your qouted lie - loose quotes are OK as long as they are credible) ---------
My favor lie is our government will be transparent and I will let the American People have five full days to view every bill that I sign. Anybody see the five days yet? He should have said 13 hours so no one has time to read the bill. ha ha Just one lie after the other and the people that voted for him don't even know where he was born.
Or how you fail college in CA and then get accepted at Columbia. One of the fifty question I have up to now.
Respectfully,
JBH
Truthseeker:
There is a website some place that does list all his lies. I don't know if its Keyes but someone did post sometime ago on the other website.
JBH
Have been wondering what is going with Blago,Rezko,and the FBI. The last time I heard anything about Rezko he was being moved to a new cell in ILL. Anybody hear anything?
JBH
Personally, I would like to know what it will take to get the main stream media to cover the different law suits seeking proof of Obama's eligibility to be president.
Bogatyr:
Have been researching since Oct. of last year and heard a couple of times on the Fox news about pending supreme court lawsuits against BO. That is all I have ever seen on the MSM.
JBH
bottdog:
I do not believe we can change hundreds of years of hate towards the US by Iran. And you know they will not speak with Hillary no matter what she is wearing. ha ha
Respectfully,
JBH
JBH: You are absolutely correct!
Anyone who thought Bush hurt foreign policy had better hang on to their seats! This guy completely missed France's last election and apparently forgot that the guy he spoke to in France last summer was NOT Jaques Chirac. Are you kidding me?! Sarcozy's (s) wedding plans have been discussed all over the news....
He has all these pretty words about "making nice", and clearly has NO CLUE what he's talking about as he has been rebuffed by the Taliban twice this month. Now we have the Chech leader telling him he is on a path to financial disaster----IN PUBLIC!! What next?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: POTUS IS NOT AN OJT JOB!!!!!
Obama was raised in near poverty, first by his mother and step-father, then by his grandparents. He was (presumably) born in Kenya, then brought to Hawaii by his mother as an infant. His only memories are those in Hawaii and then Indonesia where he lived as an adopted child named Barry Soetoro.
When his mother and step-father took him to Indonesia, the boy was adopted by, and took the surname of his step-father. He was registered in school as an Indonesian citizen.
It has been said that in the early eighties he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
It's also true that there are no records of Obama ever having a U.S. passport before running for President.
It is thought that he has kept his college records sealed to hide the fact that he attended Columbia as a "foreign aid" student, and was identified as such. The money for his Columbia tuition came from his contacts in the Muslim world.
So, why isn't the mainstream media doing it's job of connecting all these dots?
Journalism died last year as far as the MSM goes. FOX is the only one that reports anything that would remotely go against Obama, but even they are restricted from really digging in to the truth. Glenn Beck, since he left CNN, and started with FOX, has come out with a lot more of the truth than I'm sure FOX is wanting him to. He mentioned about a month ago about how he was going to have one show about the FEMA camps, but never mentioned it again. I think they put a stop to that...sad that we can no longer get the truth from the media...and even sadder that at least half of Americans take what is given to them from the MSM as the "Solid Truth".
I heard that Fitzgerald has until April 7th, which is the Grand Jury deadline date, to indict Blago, or possibly ask for an extension. But I have read that he is expected to be indicted on corruption charges before then... I imagine that there is quite a bit of dirt being brought up on more than just Blago through all of this. It's amazing how these Chicago thugs think that their ways are "normal business", and truly think that they haven/t done anything wrong....and not just Blago either...
DrRuth:
I it hard to fathom that Tony Rezko and Blago will have nothing to say before they go down. BO was in the middle of this and of course his lovely wife was not far behind.
It is sad when you read the information in Defend Our Freedom blog and what the men & women in the military are saying about BO. If someday he is ordered through the courts to show his past and he is proven to be a Natural Born Citizen of the US. Then and only then will he be my President of this great country.
Respectfully,
JBH
bottdog:
Very hard to believe that any past President that went to Harvard and studied Congressional law makes such a mistake of thinking there are 57 states in our country? When BO made this mistake I knew something was terribly wrong with this person.
And of course we still have the tax issue on his property in ILL. Hard to write off a mansion if you don't own it and someone else is paying the taxes other than the law firm which has been stated it did own the property?
JBH
Media Release Today:
Stated that the current administration has ask the current CEO of GM step down?
How can our government ask anyone to step down from any position? And if the problem is the CEO is not doing his job properly then whom is to judge our government but the people? I want to see anyone tell me please what government program has worked for the people of the US in the last fifty years?
In our next election if Daffy Duck runs on a independent ticket count my vote please. You can be told all day long that it is the people fault for voting these people into office. And we can argue over this issue, but when our government fails to listen to the people that have elected them then you have a bigger problem and it is what is going presently.
Respectfully,
JBH
DrRuth:
I thought at the beginning Glenn Beck would be the one that would force other Media outlets to get into BO's background. Like so many others before him he started off strong and then faded like the rest.
JBH
I don't know where anyone has gotten the idea Barry was raised in near poverty. Even in Indonesia they lived quite well. His grandmother was a bank executive! Granted they didn't make the kind of salaries bank executives make today, but she was still a vice president. Near poverty you say? Barry went to very expensive colleges. He claims to have worked throughout, but cannot provide the names or dates of a single ex-employer. How did he travel around the world so extensively during college if he was raised poor?
I also remember when approximately one year ago his wife Michelle claimed they had just paid off his student loans, so she is deeply involved in lying to promote this cover up as well. When he ran for the US Senate, he had to file financial declarations back to 2000 showing all assets and debts and NO student loans were listed. Pretty cute trick to pull off, especially if as you say, he was raised in near poverty.
bottdog:
A couple of things have always been on my mind since Oct. of last year.
1. BO stated in the campaign at one point that people in this country need to start speaking Spanish. Which got me going and of course this statement was in LA to the latino population.
2. How do you get into any college these days without a second language? Ca,NY,Mass
3. My oldest son is getting ready to go to college but he needs a second language. I know I needed a second language to go to college.
4. So how do you flunk out of CA and get into Columbia? Let along Harvard?
5. We will never know until he does release his records like all taxes, medical, college, birth cert.....
JBH
JBH,
Unfortunately, I don't think that ANY of the Talk Radio Show Hosts are allowed to bring up ANY of the BC stuff, or even any of the New World Order discussion. Mark Levin, even on XM radio was nervously squirming out of a question from a listener that threw in the question if he had seen The Obama Deception Movie...it is quite evident that they are not allowed to even go there....and if you try to bring up any of the NBC or NWO stuff, the moderators won't put you on. that goes for Hannity, Levin, Wilkow and Beck....the only one that I know of that has allowed discussion of the BC is G. Gordon Liddy, even way before the election.
Rusty Humphries is on in the evenings on XM and interesting enough, calls him Barry....but I haven't heard him talk about the BC yet.
DrRuth:
Thank you for your comments. Have you heard anything on the news about the indictment in GA that is in Worldnetdaily.com/ ?
Hopefully this will start the ball rolling against a person that has never been properly vetted by anyone.
JBH
JBH,
Yes...I did receive my daily email from WND this morning, and I read about this. The Citizen Grand Jury concept is interesting, and it looks like at least 20 other states are looking into doing the same thing....I just hope it can be effective in time....before Barry does any more irreversible damage. I was reading that they have 40 days to respond....he can do a LOT of damage in 40 days. But, since the judges won't hear the cases, maybe it's the best shot we have, barring a full on revolution, which feels to be coming soon if nothing else is done, and he keeps on pushing.
JBH,
What tax problems do Barry & Michelle have with their property in Illinois...are you talking about their mansion there? Please explain...It's the first time I've heard of this.